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  1. Jenkins
  2. JENKINS-52396

Integration with Blue Ocean?

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    • Improvement
    • Status: Reopened (View Workflow)
    • Major
    • Resolution: Unresolved
    • p4-plugin
    • Jenkins LTS 2.121.1, Blue Ocean 1.6.2, P4 Plugin 1.8.10

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      Trying to run Blue Ocean recently (clicking on the "Open Blue Ocean" button on the main menu bar), the "Create a new pipeline" button action prompts "Where do you store your code?", but gives only the options "Bitbucket Cloud", "Bitbucket Server", "GitHub", "GitHub Enterprise", and "Git" (see attached image). What's a Perforce user to do? The Git/GItHub demos of Blue Ocean are impressive, but is this functionality not going to be available for Perforce users?

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            p4karl Karl Wirth added a comment -

            Hi ludovick777 - Thanks for the feedback. I have highlighted your comments and the comments on JENKINS-66904  to our product managers.

            p4karl Karl Wirth added a comment - Hi ludovick777 - Thanks for the feedback. I have highlighted your comments and the comments on JENKINS-66904   to our product managers.
            giordanolins Giordano added a comment -

            Yep, definitely the game industry needs it. (just to reinforce there's people waiting on this PR)  

            giordanolins Giordano added a comment - Yep, definitely the game industry needs it. (just to reinforce there's people waiting on this PR)  
            p4karl Karl Wirth added a comment -

            Hi giordanolins - Thanks for the feedback. We were told a few years ago that the Blue Ocean project was in maintenance mode. Do you know if the project has been restarted and is now active?

            Also to help me discuss this with the product managers can you please let me know some of the reasons you choose Blue Ocean over the standard interface.

            Thanks in advance,

            Karl

            p4karl Karl Wirth added a comment - Hi giordanolins - Thanks for the feedback. We were told a few years ago that the Blue Ocean project was in maintenance mode. Do you know if the project has been restarted and is now active? Also to help me discuss this with the product managers can you please let me know some of the reasons you choose Blue Ocean over the standard interface. Thanks in advance, Karl
            giordanolins Giordano added a comment -

            Hi p4karl. Sorry for the late answer. I do prefer the Blue Ocean interface over Jenkins "legacy" one because it makes me feel more in 2023 xD. Besides the joke, I do think Bluo Ocean stepped the game up the game to Jenkins in the UX point of view. Allowing the user to edit pipelines in a easier way than the editor in the default UI, is something I really enjoy (and people working with me too). As I have a development background, my workflow is basically VS Code + Jenkins Jack and Jenkins Doc extensions.

            It's really straight forward but I miss the workflow I have in Azure, for instance. To edit a pipeline yaml on Azure is very simple and intuitive. As been a cloud practitioner, Blue Ocean really makes me feel like I am in one of those platforms. I do favor declarative syntax over scripted one, and having an in-browser easy to use edition tool is really productive for people not used to CVS and versioning in general.

            As in game industry Perforce is really king, I think it's been a bit outcast in favor of git. Sure, lots of teams work with both, but in my case we have all centralized in Perforce for the sake of simplicity. Too many tools complicate too much and become failure points too quickly. So, yeah, that's my appeal knowing it's not an easy task to push those changes into an open source tool, but I think Jenkins is also king in CI/CD world. I hope I can learn a bit of Jenkins internals too so I can also collaborate instead of just asking xD. Have a nice day and thanks for listening to the community!

            giordanolins Giordano added a comment - Hi p4karl . Sorry for the late answer. I do prefer the Blue Ocean interface over Jenkins "legacy" one because it makes me feel more in 2023 xD. Besides the joke, I do think Bluo Ocean stepped the game up the game to Jenkins in the UX point of view. Allowing the user to edit pipelines in a easier way than the editor in the default UI, is something I really enjoy (and people working with me too). As I have a development background, my workflow is basically VS Code + Jenkins Jack and Jenkins Doc extensions. It's really straight forward but I miss the workflow I have in Azure, for instance. To edit a pipeline yaml on Azure is very simple and intuitive. As been a cloud practitioner, Blue Ocean really makes me feel like I am in one of those platforms. I do favor declarative syntax over scripted one, and having an in-browser easy to use edition tool is really productive for people not used to CVS and versioning in general. As in game industry Perforce is really king, I think it's been a bit outcast in favor of git. Sure, lots of teams work with both, but in my case we have all centralized in Perforce for the sake of simplicity. Too many tools complicate too much and become failure points too quickly. So, yeah, that's my appeal knowing it's not an easy task to push those changes into an open source tool, but I think Jenkins is also king in CI/CD world. I hope I can learn a bit of Jenkins internals too so I can also collaborate instead of just asking xD. Have a nice day and thanks for listening to the community!
            p4karl Karl Wirth added a comment -

            Hi giordanolins - Thank you very much for that feedback. I'll pass that onto our project managers.

            p4karl Karl Wirth added a comment - Hi giordanolins - Thank you very much for that feedback. I'll pass that onto our project managers.

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